# Rename the category \`dev\` **URL:** \ **Category:** Site Feedback\ **Created:** [October 13, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378 "2022-10-13T14:02:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![soegaard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/soegaard/32/19_2.png) [@soegaard](https://racket.discourse.group/u/soegaard)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/1 "2022-10-13T14:02:34Z")
The category `dev` looks out of place on the front page. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/racket/original/1X/73f1d44a2e19c49db501b1247761b82f24392dba.png) ---
**Author:** ![jbclements](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/jbclements/32/11_2.png) [@jbclements](https://racket.discourse.group/u/jbclements)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/2 "2022-10-13T18:25:13Z")
It does. I saw that, too. Would you prefer "Dev"? ---
**Author:** ![jryans](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/jryans/32/31_2.png) [@jryans](https://racket.discourse.group/u/jryans)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/3 "2022-10-13T22:22:32Z")
Perhaps it could be called Internals to match the channel name on Discord for discussions on Racket core development. ---
**Author:** ![spdegabrielle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/spdegabrielle/32/95_2.png) [@spdegabrielle](https://racket.discourse.group/u/spdegabrielle)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/4 "2022-10-14T00:15:55Z")
I've corrected the capitalisation to match the description ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/racket/original/1X/98f55d67f33cf26ad00babae4d0ebc96aacdca9a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![soegaard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/soegaard/32/19_2.png) [@soegaard](https://racket.discourse.group/u/soegaard)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 8:59am UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/5 "2022-10-14T08:59:04Z")
@jbclements > It does. I saw that, too. Would you prefer "Dev"? It still sticks out as the only abbreviation. But I don't find "Development" much better - it is too vague. @jryans > Perhaps it could be called Internals ... I think that's better than the current name. ---
**Author:** ![spdegabrielle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/spdegabrielle/32/95_2.png) [@spdegabrielle](https://racket.discourse.group/u/spdegabrielle)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/6 "2022-10-14T09:51:23Z")
WRT naming I find it informative looking at what other communities do. i.e. ‘What does **good** look like’. I’ve compiled a list but I’ve not had time to review what the R, Elixir, or Haskell communities do: > **[Programming language community forums and chats](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WxnA2NYmj33w7TVA4QWwMQUaqh3lQzhE8MN6QSheyCQ/edit)** > > Sheet1 > > language,home,mailing lists,Discourse,Slack,zulip,IRC,Discord,reddit,Telegram,Forum,Blog,Q&A,News,Wiki,Gitter > SUM,20,11,10,7,3,11,9,6,1,3,5,1,6,3,1 > Julia,3,https://julialang.org/,https://discourse.jul... ---
**Author:** ![jryans](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/jryans/32/31_2.png) [@jryans](https://racket.discourse.group/u/jryans)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 10:15am UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/7 "2022-10-14T10:15:18Z")
Thanks for the reminder. Here are the closest matching categories in other language Discourse instances: - [Juila](https://discourse.julialang.org/categories): Internals & Design category with Internals sub-category - [Haskell](https://discourse.haskell.org/categories): _No match found_ - [Elixir](https://elixirforum.com/categories): _No match found_ - [Clojure](https://clojureverse.org/categories): _No match found_ - [Rust](https://users.rust-lang.org/categories): There's an entirely separate [Rust Internals Discourse instance](https://internals.rust-lang.org/categories) - [Elm](https://discourse.elm-lang.org/categories): _No match found_ - [OCaml](https://discuss.ocaml.org/categories): _No match found_ - [Python](https://discuss.python.org/categories): Several categories including Committers, Core Development, and Core Workflow - [Prolog](https://swi-prolog.discourse.group/categories): _No match found_ - [Processing](https://discourse.processing.org/categories): _No match found_ This suggests that to me that if you're going to have a category for core development, Internals is a reasonable name choice across language communities. ---
**Author:** ![jbclements](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/jbclements/32/11_2.png) [@jbclements](https://racket.discourse.group/u/jbclements)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/8 "2022-10-16T20:10:05Z")
Sounds ... well, I still have one question. Do you think that release mechanics (currently the only posts that actually appear in dev) are well-described by "Internals"? I guess I'm thinking of "hey everyone that helps to maintain the internals," rather than "this is about the internals." But maybe we should change it anyway? ---
**Author:** ![jryans](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/jryans/32/31_2.png) [@jryans](https://racket.discourse.group/u/jryans)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/9 "2022-10-16T20:35:07Z")
To me personally, an Internals category is meant more for low-level discussion of day-to-day core development. A Racket release should be of broad interest to everyone (I would think), so I would a more general category like Announcements is a better fit for that. ---
**Author:** ![hendrikboom3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@hendrikboom3](https://racket.discourse.group/u/hendrikboom3)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/10 "2022-10-17T11:43:00Z")
That is a very useful chart. It should perhaps be placed somewhere more permanent that Google docs. -- hendrik ---
**Author:** ![jryans](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/jryans/32/31_2.png) [@jryans](https://racket.discourse.group/u/jryans)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/11 "2022-10-19T17:08:17Z")
> [@jbclements](#): > > Sounds ... well, I still have one question. Do you think that release mechanics (currently the only posts that actually appear in dev) are well-described by "Internals"? I guess I'm thinking of "hey everyone that helps to maintain the internals," rather than "this is about the internals." But maybe we should change it anyway? Ah actually, I misread your question when writing my [earlier reply](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/9). 😅 For the _release mechanics_ threads, those do seem like a good fit for the Internals / Dev category, since they are a discussion among core developers / maintainers to help get the release ready to go. The actual _release announcement_ threads are the ones that should be of general interest, and so they make sense to have in the Announcements category (where they already appear). Effectively, I think all the release threads are going to sensible places currently (in my opinion), and there categories would continue to make sense to me even after renaming Dev to Internals. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jbclements](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/racket.discourse.group/jbclements/32/11_2.png) [@jbclements](https://racket.discourse.group/u/jbclements)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://racket.discourse.group/t/rename-the-category-dev/1378/12 "2022-10-20T21:17:38Z")
Okay, I'm sold. Changing the name.